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Jose Reyes, TOR, AL
Birthdate: 06-11-1983
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Message #10 by Rob Reed @ March 12, 2010, 08:57am
just depends on the prospect
Everth is a crappy hitter... you will lose out on the potential of 40+ SBs from Everth, but you should get a good chunk of them from Rollins.

If this is a keeper league and the prospect is worth keeping, then I think twice about it... if it is not, and the prospect will not get a lot of playing time this year, you would be crazy not to take this deal.

Two months of Jose Reyes as a backup is more valuable than Everth in a full season, as far as I am concerned.

Worth the risk.

Message #9 by Bearlo0317 @ March 12, 2010, 08:41am
Jose Reyes
What are your thoughts on him now long term. I was offered him in a dynasty league it would cost me Everth Cabrera and another prospect. I have Rollins also on this team?

Message #8 by Rob Reed @ January 31, 2010, 04:45pm
rollins
I go with Rollins, only because I suspect Reyes will go higher (I haven't paid much attention to mocks, but I am about to)... Rollins will be better overall, I believe.

Further negative is that CitiField is awful for power it seems, so Reyes days of 20 HR potential are long gone... Rollins should hit for higher average, more power, and 2/3 of Reyes' SB output.

Message #7 by Brian Ramos @ January 27, 2010, 01:44pm
Reyes or Rollins
Who would you take if you were needing a SS and could pick between Rollins and Reyes? Rollins had a very good second half, but not sure if he is elite as he used to and Reyes carries the risk of setback and/or less SBs which is his main value at the position. Thanks!

Message #6 by Rob Reed @ February 7, 2009, 04:48pm
Fixing the flaw?
I think I may have fixed the ranking flaw with Reyes... the error comes in when we are talking about positional scarcity. Since SS is extremely scarce this year (2009), I decided to create a "positional scarcity" factor in the rankings.

Now, Reyes comes in at #10, which I think is very reasonable because of positional scarcity.

Message #5 by Rob Reed @ 3/15/08, 10:48am
Re: Reyes Exposing PlayerTrack flaw
Thanks for the comment, Ryan.

I agree and disagree (but mainly disagree).

My agreement is limited to the fact that PlayerTrack does not take into account how a single player (like Reyes) can win you a full category. Or, more simply, you are 20% ahead of the game in the offensive categories just by having Reyes on your roster.

This being said, I think it is VERY important to pay attention to one thing.

In a draft (particularly serpentine), in my view, those fantasy players who will stay at the top of the heap, are those who bought the highest quality for the lowest price.

PlayerTrack received this very same criticism last year with regards to Carl Crawford. Just about every fantasy expert, magazine, what have you, had Carl Crawford as the #1 OF going into the 2007 season. I was one of the few naysayers, and I relied on PlayerTrack in saying so.

Well, I won that debate, obviously.

So, while folks were drafting Carl Crawford last year in the first round (including Gregg and me in the Beat the Geeks league, where I really intended on proving to Gregg and others that it would not win us the league), they were getting killed for doing so.

In the same way, I believe that those drafting Reyes in the early first round of a serpentine draft are shooting themselves in the foot before they can even get going.

Rotoworld's fantasy magazine, for instance, charts Reyes as the #2 best player in fantasy going into this year. As far as I am concerned, this is ridiculous.

The ultimate point is that PlayerTrack reveals to you that there is better overall value elsewhere.

This being said, I am keeping Reyes for $28 in my money league (drafting tomorrow). The primary reason is so that I can get a foothold on steals and not worry about it as much as I look for low price and high quality at other positions.

In a serpentine draft this year, I would NOT take Reyes in the first round unless I had a high first pick number (say 9-12), knowing that I could follow Reyes up with a multi-category stud who will potentially give me much more balance across the board.

Balance is key in my philosophy, and the 2007 version of Jose Reyes was severely lacking in that.

Message #4 by Ryan Barker @ 3/15/08, 9:55am
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Playertrack is great, but Reyes exposes its flaw.

The playertrack ranking just gives points for ranking ahead of a guy in a stat category. It doesn't take into account the gap between the rungs. In steals, Reyes gets one point for being
(18?) steals ahead of Pierre... and he would get that one point regardless of whether he was one steal ahead or 100. Playertrack wouldn't take that into account.

This sort of problem also bears itself out by not consistently ranking players in the overall ranking vs. how they are ranked when you sort by position. Lets say you were looking at the #4 and #5 3rd basemen (I'm not using their real stats) The overall rankings can find more players to intersperse between those two in say RBI... thus, the gap in the RBI between those two is weighted higher in the overall rankings, and can effect the overall order.

Again, I love playertrack for what it can do, but we need to acknowledge its hole... and Reyes is likely one of the biggest losers from this type of analysis.

Message #3 by thetrueguru @ 3/11/08, 11:16pm
Nice Rob
Right On...I like that thought. I certainly agree with the having one solid 40+ stolen base guy on your team. Frankly, I think you need 100 bases as an absolute minimum to take the category. Reyes gives you as least 70 and he's big on runs. But the price is so high, and the question is do you really need that many bases from one guy if no one else can even come that close? Reyes is overkill in some leagues. Plus, you give up on power with Reyes when like you said gettign 28 Hrs and 50 stolen bases from Hanley sounds allot better. What about Figgins in the 5th round? He can get you 60 and bat over .300! Do you think there are better values in the draft than Reyes?

Message #2 by Rob Reed @ 3/11/08, 8:46pm
Re: overvalued
You and I are on the same page. And, playertrack's rankings help support our position immensely.

Still, as I said in the latest baseballgeeks.com podcast, I think that in order to win your league, you need one stud stolen base guy (stud = 40+ SB minimum).

As Reyes doubles this output, he is incredibly valuable because he can win you 1/5 categories, or get you 20% ahead of the game just by having him on your team.

It is for this reason that I am holding him for $28 in my money league -- my highest priced hold.

In a serpentine, I would not take him #2. Hanley Ramirez or Jimmy Rollins? After their 2007 season, absolutely.

Message #1 by thetrueguru @ 3/11/08, 7:59pm
Is he overvalued?
Is Jose Reyes overvalued? Right now he's pretty much the second pick in the draft, but if you look at his last season the numbers aren't anything to talk about except the 78 steals. If you look at his last three years he's never batted over .300, never hit over 20 homeruns and averages 67 steals and 113 runs. Is that worth the #2 overall pick? Especially when there are guys out there like Brian Roberts, Chone Figgins, and possibly even Jacoby Ellsbury who can compete with those numbers, bu are take later, sometimes much later in the draft. Just a thought

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PLAYERtrack overall ranking graph
        for Jose Reyes

x=year; y=% of available fantasy points per year x 1000

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PLAYERtrack player stats & ranks
        for Jose Reyes

ABH2B3BHRRBIRAVGOBPSB
2013382113200103758.296.35315
SOBABIPCR%SLGOPS
47.31787%.4270.78
2013 OVERALL PLAYERTRACK RANK: 104

ABH2B3BHRRBIRAVGOBPSB
20126421843712115786.287.35040
SOBABIPCR%SLGOPS
56.30191%.4330.783
2012 OVERALL PLAYERTRACK RANK: 128
2012 (SS) PLAYERTRACK RANK: 10

ABH2B3BHRRBIRAVGOBPSB
20115371813116744101.337.38639
SOBABIPCR%SLGOPS
41.35692%.4930.879
2011 OVERALL PLAYERTRACK RANK: 18
2011 (SS) PLAYERTRACK RANK: 1

ABH2B3BHRRBIRAVGOBPSB
20105631592910115483.282.32030
SOBABIPCR%SLGOPS
63.30388%.4280.748
2010 OVERALL PLAYERTRACK RANK: 79
2010 (SS) PLAYERTRACK RANK: 7

ABH2B3BHRRBIRAVGOBPSB
2009147417221518.279.35811
SOBABIPCR%SLGOPS
19.31087%.3950.753
No ranking because did not play 20+ games at any position
SS-35

ABH2B3BHRRBIRAVGOBPSB
200868820437191668113.297.35856
SOBABIPCR%SLGOPS
82.31988%.4750.833
2008 OVERALL PLAYERTRACK RANK: 56
2008 (SS) PLAYERTRACK RANK: 4

ABH2B3BHRRBIRAVGOBPSB
200768119136121257119.280.35478
SOBABIPCR%SLGOPS
78.30388%.4210.775
2007 OVERALL PLAYERTRACK RANK: 83
2007 (SS) PLAYERTRACK RANK: 9

ABH2B3BHRRBIRAVGOBPSB
200664719430171981122.300.35464
SOBABIPCR%SLGOPS
81.32087%.4870.841
2006 OVERALL PLAYERTRACK RANK: 2
2006 (SS) PLAYERTRACK RANK: 1

ABH2B3BHRRBIRAVGOBPSB
2005696190241775899.273.30060
SOBABIPCR%SLGOPS
78.30088%.3860.686
2005 OVERALL PLAYERTRACK RANK: 120
2005 (SS) PLAYERTRACK RANK: 13

ABH2B3BHRRBIRAVGOBPSB
20042205616221433.255.27119
SOBABIPCR%SLGOPS
31.28985%.3730.644
2004 OVERALL PLAYERTRACK RANK: 240
2004 (2B) PLAYERTRACK RANK: 33

The PLAYERtrack rankings, above, are under standard 5x5 format (AVG, HR, RBI, R, SB), minimum of 20 games played at a position; players are ranked versus all AL/NL hitters, PRORATED